Comments on: Don’t get patience and acceptence mixed up with anxiety http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/ Anxiety no more Helping sufferers overcome anxiety and panic issues Thu, 17 May 2012 16:47:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Imogen http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1840 Imogen Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:43:42 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1840 I am a bit drunk now guys, but hate the places that some of you are in. Please have some love in your heart and open your mind to reading Elkhart Tolle's Power of Now or a New Earth. I promise you, this will take you to a better place. Let love into your life... xx I am a bit drunk now guys, but hate the places that some of you are in. Please have some love in your heart and open your mind to reading Elkhart Tolle’s Power of Now or a New Earth. I promise you, this will take you to a better place.

Let love into your life…

xx

]]> By: Natalie http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1827 Natalie Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:32:44 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1827 Hi guys, i too suffer from depression as part of my anxiety. I put it all my symptoms under the same umbrella and deal with it as a whole rather than individually. So i treat my depressive feelings the same as my anxiety. A Dave explains above, i too seem to notice the pattern of feeling depressed after a heavy period of anxiety. For example, i became incredibly anxious trying to organise my birthday party a few months ago, so much so that a few days after the party, i became so depressed i didn't get out my bed for days and was in a black hole with nasty thoughts of killing myself going through my head (it wasn't just a bad hangover!) Looking back now i notice how the anxiety built up over a few weeks, until i became completely mentally exhauted and fell depressed. So with this in mind, is it any wonder we can feel depressed as a symptom? It must be the most normal thing to feel depressed given our minds are so knackered with all that worrying and obssessing we do! Don't let it be something else to worry about. Like anxiety, we need to make love to the depression (!) rather than fight it off! Recovery will happen for all of us. Natalie Hi guys,
i too suffer from depression as part of my anxiety. I put it all my symptoms under the same umbrella and deal with it as a whole rather than individually. So i treat my depressive feelings the same as my anxiety.

A Dave explains above, i too seem to notice the pattern of feeling depressed after a heavy period of anxiety. For example, i became incredibly anxious trying to organise my birthday party a few months ago, so much so that a few days after the party, i became so depressed i didn’t get out my bed for days and was in a black hole with nasty thoughts of killing myself going through my head (it wasn’t just a bad hangover!)

Looking back now i notice how the anxiety built up over a few weeks, until i became completely mentally exhauted and fell depressed. So with this in mind, is it any wonder we can feel depressed as a symptom? It must be the most normal thing to feel depressed given our minds are so knackered with all that worrying and obssessing we do! Don’t let it be something else to worry about. Like anxiety, we need to make love to the depression (!) rather than fight it off!
Recovery will happen for all of us.

Natalie

]]> By: Oz http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1826 Oz Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:46:44 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1826 Thanks Jules for your advice and experience. I'm sure we all will recover and I do apply acceptance and patience to this depression too. I understand that it is part of, or at least caused by the anxiety and I think part of the depression may just be exhaustion of my brain, a year is a long time to be anxious. I have made so much progress from the state I was in around the winter time, before I found this site and learned the skills I can use now. I would let myself become hysterical so easily when I woke up in the morning (and mornings are always the worst) and scanned my feelings straight away as soon as I woke up and became distraught if they were bad. Now I just let the feelings be there without questioning so much and eventually they do pass, I have more good days now as opposed to everyday being unbearable but the depression is a worry simply because my anxiety bouts had never developed into a depression before. Thanks Jules for your advice and experience. I’m sure we all will recover and I do apply acceptance and patience to this depression too. I understand that it is part of, or at least caused by the anxiety and I think part of the depression may just be exhaustion of my brain, a year is a long time to be anxious. I have made so much progress from the state I was in around the winter time, before I found this site and learned the skills I can use now. I would let myself become hysterical so easily when I woke up in the morning (and mornings are always the worst) and scanned my feelings straight away as soon as I woke up and became distraught if they were bad. Now I just let the feelings be there without questioning so much and eventually they do pass, I have more good days now as opposed to everyday being unbearable but the depression is a worry simply because my anxiety bouts had never developed into a depression before.

]]> By: Jules http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1825 Jules Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:52:04 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1825 Hey Oz I'm sorry to hear what you have been going through. Reading your experience rings similar to my own experience. I have had anxiety for some months which at times I seemed to recover from but as you say in more recent weeks it seemed to progress into a depression which runs alongside and at times supercedes the anxiety states. In my view it is not the scar of anxiety that is causing this, more that it is part of the same parcel, underlying perhaps. You can recover from depression as much as you can anxiety and I do believe that acceptance and patience can work. I understand what you mean when you say the 'after effect' the depression I gather can be equally as frightening. Its all expressions of distress whatever symptoms and experiences its how we learn to live alongside them without adding more fuel, to sit with the unpleasantness and fear and let it pass. It is possible to make a full recovery, be it depression, anxiety or depression and anxiety. People so often experience a mixture of symptoms. It's easy for me to say this now but I, like you have suffered times of doubt and fear that i will not recover. Like any illness it will run its course and there will be things within your control that you can do to help yourself. Take care. Hey Oz
I’m sorry to hear what you have been going through. Reading your experience rings similar to my own experience. I have had anxiety for some months which at times I seemed to recover from but as you say in more recent weeks it seemed to progress into a depression which runs alongside and at times supercedes the anxiety states.
In my view it is not the scar of anxiety that is causing this, more that it is part of the same parcel, underlying perhaps. You can recover from depression as much as you can anxiety and I do believe that acceptance and patience can work.
I understand what you mean when you say the ‘after effect’ the depression I gather can be equally as frightening. Its all expressions of distress whatever symptoms and experiences its how we learn to live alongside them without adding more fuel, to sit with the unpleasantness and fear and let it pass.
It is possible to make a full recovery, be it depression, anxiety or depression and anxiety. People so often experience a mixture of symptoms. It’s easy for me to say this now but I, like you have suffered times of doubt and fear that i will not recover. Like any illness it will run its course and there will be things within your control that you can do to help yourself.
Take care.

]]> By: Oz http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1821 Oz Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:09:34 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1821 Hi Dave, I wanted to reply to you because I can relate exactly. I have always suffered with anxiety, on and off throughout my life. I was never prone to depression, the problem was always anxiety. The episodes and bouts were always short, never more than a few weeks. But last year I had a very severe bout in september that has lasted until now. The reason it was different this time is that unlike previously, I didn't recover in a brief amount of time and stay recovered, I kept relapsing instead. This happened repeatedly so many times when I thought I had made progress that I began to lose confidence in my power to recover from this. Then the nature of the anxiety started to change. From red hot fear it suddenly began to become very creepy and strange instead like it was evolving more and more into a depression, I felt gloomy, oppressively dark emotions which were made worse by depressing dreams that would haunt me throughout the day. Like you I wasn't sure if I was suffering from anxiety or just depression anymore. I felt angry that the anxiety had damaged me in such a way that i was now having to contend with a depression - which I had never had before - as some kind of scar from the anxiety. I'd almost go as far to say as the anxiety is not the main problem anymore so much as the depression it has left behind, that scares me enough to make me anxious all over again. Has anybody else experienced the effect of having the anxiety leave a frightening depression behind and does the acceptance and patience work for the depression to? Because this after effect seems equally as frightening. Hi Dave, I wanted to reply to you because I can relate exactly. I have always suffered with anxiety, on and off throughout my life. I was never prone to depression, the problem was always anxiety. The episodes and bouts were always short, never more than a few weeks. But last year I had a very severe bout in september that has lasted until now. The reason it was different this time is that unlike previously, I didn’t recover in a brief amount of time and stay recovered, I kept relapsing instead. This happened repeatedly so many times when I thought I had made progress that I began to lose confidence in my power to recover from this. Then the nature of the anxiety started to change. From red hot fear it suddenly began to become very creepy and strange instead like it was evolving more and more into a depression, I felt gloomy, oppressively dark emotions which were made worse by depressing dreams that would haunt me throughout the day. Like you I wasn’t sure if I was suffering from anxiety or just depression anymore. I felt angry that the anxiety had damaged me in such a way that i was now having to contend with a depression – which I had never had before – as some kind of scar from the anxiety. I’d almost go as far to say as the anxiety is not the main problem anymore so much as the depression it has left behind, that scares me enough to make me anxious all over again. Has anybody else experienced the effect of having the anxiety leave a frightening depression behind and does the acceptance and patience work for the depression to? Because this after effect seems equally as frightening.

]]> By: DaveM http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1815 DaveM Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:27:08 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1815 Hey guys... It's been a while since I've posted here, although I have kept up reading from time to time. My question is this one, how do you deal with the depression that comes with anxiety? I got over a bad bout of constant anxiety and had pretty much "gotten back to normal". I was eating a lot again, working out, concentrating on my favorite sports teams, and hanging out with friends some, but I realized I was not happy. Now something happened that threw me back into an anxious mode, and with it I can't tell if I'm more depressed or anxious? I just have an overall feeling of despair and hopelessness, and I notice that this often follows an anxiety attack/anxious state. The problem is the anxiety mixed in keeps making me worry for my future, like "what if this doesn't go away, what if I spiral into such a bad depression I commit suicide" etc. I mean normally I guess when not anxious, I am unhappy and lightly depressed, but nothing serious, but when the anxiety hits hard, it follows with heavy depression. Just wondering if anyone else can relate to this? Hey guys… It’s been a while since I’ve posted here, although I have kept up reading from time to time.

My question is this one, how do you deal with the depression that comes with anxiety?

I got over a bad bout of constant anxiety and had pretty much “gotten back to normal”. I was eating a lot again, working out, concentrating on my favorite sports teams, and hanging out with friends some, but I realized I was not happy. Now something happened that threw me back into an anxious mode, and with it I can’t tell if I’m more depressed or anxious? I just have an overall feeling of despair and hopelessness, and I notice that this often follows an anxiety attack/anxious state. The problem is the anxiety mixed in keeps making me worry for my future, like “what if this doesn’t go away, what if I spiral into such a bad depression I commit suicide” etc.

I mean normally I guess when not anxious, I am unhappy and lightly depressed, but nothing serious, but when the anxiety hits hard, it follows with heavy depression. Just wondering if anyone else can relate to this?

]]> By: dean http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1793 dean Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:35:34 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1793 hi lorryt yeah i just got to be patient,its just this burning sensation in my skin and my skin is so sensitive its like i got sunburn on my face without the actual sunburn,so im obsesing over that symptom.oh well its not in my hands,its up to the universe and g-d now.i cant control it and its hard but i just have to trust and and accept it and it will just fade away.dont worry you will bounce back,as paul says u have up days and you have down days.all part of it.i do take natural stuff like rescue remedy and i have been given stuff to take from this holistic healer and psychic.i have been brught to this healer for a reason and i must learn to just trust.i dont like the conventional meds,they just dont do it for me.i just sometimes doubt myself wether ive made the right choice or not.but as i said i will be devinely guided throught it ad shown the way through the holistic way of life. kind regards Dean:) hi lorryt

yeah i just got to be patient,its just this burning sensation in my skin and my skin is so sensitive its like i got sunburn on my face without the actual sunburn,so im obsesing over that symptom.oh well its not in my hands,its up to the universe and g-d now.i cant control it and its hard but i just have to trust and and accept it and it will just fade away.dont worry you will bounce back,as paul says u have up days and you have down days.all part of it.i do take natural stuff like rescue remedy and i have been given stuff to take from this holistic healer and psychic.i have been brught to this healer for a reason and i must learn to just trust.i dont like the conventional meds,they just dont do it for me.i just sometimes doubt myself wether ive made the right choice or not.but as i said i will be devinely guided throught it ad shown the way through the holistic way of life.

kind regards
Dean:)

]]> By: lorryt http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1786 lorryt Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:49 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1786 yes dean you will be, its just the old addage time is a great healer. i am dounbting things today as having a bit of a set back no idea where it came from but just gotta get on and not let it get to me. you are very brave dean doing it without drugs i couldnt it has been very difficult for me as i have a family who completely relies on me, but as you say we will all get there in the. and you can believe we wil al the best lorrytxx yes dean you will be, its just the old addage time is a great healer. i am dounbting things today as having a bit of a set back no idea where it came from but just gotta get on and not let it get to me.
you are very brave dean doing it without drugs i couldnt it has been very difficult for me as i have a family who completely relies on me, but as you say we will all get there in the. and you can believe we wil

al the best
lorrytxx

]]> By: Dean http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1782 Dean Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:40:19 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1782 hi lorryt thank you for that reassurance i needed that,i do want to adopt that additude toward anxiety and my symptoms of so what and not pay them any attention and just give my body a real chance to do what it does best.to Heal on its own.as i said im not a docter person,i prefer the holistic way of looking at things,i think it benefits me far greater,thats just me.i dont have anything against docters,but i just dont like them.you and all these people on here are a true inspiration,that you can get through this with 100% success,you just got to give yourself time and not be to hard on yourself.i think the difficult thing for me is not being able to control something thats not in my hands and it frustrates me and stresses me out and im used to having things done 123.Im learning that thats not the case with anxiety,its not an overnight thing. but anyway thankyou lorryt for those reassuring words once again and having the oppertunity to express how i feel on this blog.I think the real thanks goes to paul for setting this all up for people to come air there views.its great keep up the good work paul and to you to lorryt,because i know deep down inside i will be another success story. Dean hi lorryt

thank you for that reassurance i needed that,i do want to adopt that additude toward anxiety and my symptoms of so what and not pay them any attention and just give my body a real chance to do what it does best.to Heal on its own.as i said im not a docter person,i prefer the holistic way of looking at things,i think it benefits me far greater,thats just me.i dont have anything against docters,but i just dont like them.you and all these people on here are a true inspiration,that you can get through this with 100% success,you just got to give yourself time and not be to hard on yourself.i think the difficult thing for me is not being able to control something thats not in my hands and it frustrates me and stresses me out and im used to having things done 123.Im learning that thats not the case with anxiety,its not an overnight thing.

but anyway thankyou lorryt for those reassuring words once again and having the oppertunity to express how i feel on this blog.I think the real thanks goes to paul for setting this all up for people to come air there views.its great keep up the good work paul and to you to lorryt,because i know deep down inside i will be another success story.

Dean

]]> By: lorryt http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/2008/08/01/40/#comment-1780 lorryt Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:51:34 +0000 http://anxietynomore.co.uk/blog/?p=40#comment-1780 hi dean believe me all sorts of symptoms are anxiety. i get the itching from time to time it will go believe me. my physical symptoms are getting less and less all the time, look at them this way, they cant hurt you! they are sensations that will fade when the adrenelin decides its not gonna run around your body any more. I still get the thoughts from time to time, and i just say so what !. i am finally accepting it all and thats what counts ! have a good day and dnt worry about strange things happening to your body too much lorrytx hi dean

believe me all sorts of symptoms are anxiety. i get the itching from time to time it will go believe me. my physical symptoms are getting less and less all the time, look at them this way, they cant hurt you! they are sensations that will fade when the adrenelin decides its not gonna run around your body any more. I still get the thoughts from time to time, and i just say so what !. i am finally accepting it all and thats what counts !

have a good day and dnt worry about strange things happening to your body too much lorrytx

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